newtexasteach
Junior Member
If I submit a letter of resignation before being asked to sign an intervention plan, will I have to sign it?
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Growth/Intervention Plan
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PrivateEyes
Senior Member
Not an expert
...but it seems to me that you don't HAVE to sign anything. What I would be worried about is when you go to get a new teaching job, what will your reference be able to say? Can they say..."refused intervention plan?" I think you ought to be contacting your union rep, if you have one. Not just the school's rep, but the local area leader. (That is, if you have one.) They would be able to give you the best advice, and perhaps even get you out of this predicament you're in.
...but it seems to me that you don't HAVE to sign anything. What I would be worried about is when you go to get a new teaching job, what will your reference be able to say? Can they say..."refused intervention plan?" I think you ought to be contacting your union rep, if you have one. Not just the school's rep, but the local area leader. (That is, if you have one.) They would be able to give you the best advice, and perhaps even get you out of this predicament you're in.
Tounces
Senior Member
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I wrote back on your other post too. I think if you do sign it, it only means you saw it, not that you agree with it. The reason I suggested a resignation letter was for you to be able to say that you quit instead of were let go. On some applications they have the question that asks 'were you ever not asked to return or let go from a position before'. This way you can answer no. I think it looks better to future employers but you can't get unemployment then either. This was suggested only if they sounded like they were getting rid of you. I guess I'd also ask if I was put on this intervention plan if they intend to keep me on next year or not. They may say they'll see, which probably means no. Or if they say probably, it sounds more positive.
I wrote back on your other post too. I think if you do sign it, it only means you saw it, not that you agree with it. The reason I suggested a resignation letter was for you to be able to say that you quit instead of were let go. On some applications they have the question that asks 'were you ever not asked to return or let go from a position before'. This way you can answer no. I think it looks better to future employers but you can't get unemployment then either. This was suggested only if they sounded like they were getting rid of you. I guess I'd also ask if I was put on this intervention plan if they intend to keep me on next year or not. They may say they'll see, which probably means no. Or if they say probably, it sounds more positive.
Penny
Senior Member
are you prepared
Are you prepared to quit your job at this point in the year? Or do you think you can hang in there until May?
An intervention plan does not mean certain career death. According to ATPE (I don't know if you're a member or not) being placed on a plan doesn't kill your job or career, it's how you handle it. If you are professional and follow all directives, you can survive it.
Yes, I'd advise getting out of that district. You don't need the small town stress, but it would be less harmful to your career if you comply with a plan (if they do put you on one), than if you quit at this point in the year.
I was put on a plan a couple of years ago thanks to the combination of horrible classes, backstabbing colleague, and young and inexperienced principal. I did have to sign that I saw it, but there was a disclaimer that I didn't necessarily agree with it. I agreed to comply and my principal agreed to listen to me. I got through the year (highly stressful as it was), kept my job, and proved myself. It also didn't affect me at all when I applied for other jobs and changed districts a year later. My former district did not follow PDAS though--they had their own evaluation system. That helped because some applications asked if I was put on a growth plan for a PDAS domain and I could honestly say no.
It did not come up when I interviewed for other jobs this year and I'm in one of the best Texas districts now.
Think through your decisions before you make them. Has your principal talked to you yet? If not, can you talk to her? You need to get this settled.
Good luck.
Are you prepared to quit your job at this point in the year? Or do you think you can hang in there until May?
An intervention plan does not mean certain career death. According to ATPE (I don't know if you're a member or not) being placed on a plan doesn't kill your job or career, it's how you handle it. If you are professional and follow all directives, you can survive it.
Yes, I'd advise getting out of that district. You don't need the small town stress, but it would be less harmful to your career if you comply with a plan (if they do put you on one), than if you quit at this point in the year.
I was put on a plan a couple of years ago thanks to the combination of horrible classes, backstabbing colleague, and young and inexperienced principal. I did have to sign that I saw it, but there was a disclaimer that I didn't necessarily agree with it. I agreed to comply and my principal agreed to listen to me. I got through the year (highly stressful as it was), kept my job, and proved myself. It also didn't affect me at all when I applied for other jobs and changed districts a year later. My former district did not follow PDAS though--they had their own evaluation system. That helped because some applications asked if I was put on a growth plan for a PDAS domain and I could honestly say no.
It did not come up when I interviewed for other jobs this year and I'm in one of the best Texas districts now.
Think through your decisions before you make them. Has your principal talked to you yet? If not, can you talk to her? You need to get this settled.
Good luck.
newtexasteach
Junior Member
thanks
If I submit a resignation letter, I plan to stay through May.
If I submit a resignation letter, I plan to stay through May.
done a plan
I had a principal who believed that nothing I did was right. I was put on a growth plan, followed all the ideas and praised for being responsive to my difficulties and my positive attitude toward receiving help. I turned that negative into a positive. Don't do anything rash!!
I had a principal who believed that nothing I did was right. I was put on a growth plan, followed all the ideas and praised for being responsive to my difficulties and my positive attitude toward receiving help. I turned that negative into a positive. Don't do anything rash!!
newtexasteach
Junior Member
Principal
Well, nothing happened today. No growth plan yet.
My principal just doesn't speak to me or reply to my email messages
anymore.
I am hoping my evalution goes okay.
I did put in a request to transfer.
I think I want to teach 2nd, 3rd, or 4th grade.
We'll see what happens.
Well, nothing happened today. No growth plan yet.
My principal just doesn't speak to me or reply to my email messages
anymore.
I am hoping my evalution goes okay.
I did put in a request to transfer.
I think I want to teach 2nd, 3rd, or 4th grade.
We'll see what happens.
Mom4a_and_c
Senior Member
I hope
that things start to turn around for you. I can tell my your posts that this is really eating away at you. Half of the year is over. Do your best to make it the rest of the way.
Marie from PA
that things start to turn around for you. I can tell my your posts that this is really eating away at you. Half of the year is over. Do your best to make it the rest of the way.
Marie from PA
JulieP
Senior Member
Be Careful!!
Definietly talk with a rep. In most cases, a growth plan is a kiss of death. If you are put on one, more times than not, the principal is covering his/her bases when it comes time for your final recommendation. This is usually non rehire. Signing your growth plan means that you agree to the weaknesses and the steps written out to follow. It also means that you agree to the fact that if you do not improve to the principal's satisfaction, you can be terminated. If you are put on a growth plan, just expect to turn in a resignation at your final evaluation meeting. It is better to resign than have a non rehire marked in your file. Good luck.
Definietly talk with a rep. In most cases, a growth plan is a kiss of death. If you are put on one, more times than not, the principal is covering his/her bases when it comes time for your final recommendation. This is usually non rehire. Signing your growth plan means that you agree to the weaknesses and the steps written out to follow. It also means that you agree to the fact that if you do not improve to the principal's satisfaction, you can be terminated. If you are put on a growth plan, just expect to turn in a resignation at your final evaluation meeting. It is better to resign than have a non rehire marked in your file. Good luck.