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what a girl! sorry so long

jo

Senior Member
I am so frustrated with a third grade girl. She has constantly lied to me about her homework being done, making up stories about other kids, and etc. She is a girl I just can’t trust. Today she sat in her chair, did nothing for over an hour as she didn’t want to work. No matter how many times I asked if she needed help, knew what to do, etc she just sat there. Just this week she was caught cheating on a test. She was looking for answers in the text book while taking a test.( Was caught last year while taking a spelling test, and had her words printed on her pants, but they didn’t erase after the test) When I confronted her, she sat there and did not answer anything to me.Just rolled her eyes, and didn't say a word. We wrote a note to her parents, and had to have it signed. She did bring it back to school the next day. She said that the day I caught her, that Dad wouldn’t care if she did it. The next day, she did write about it in her journal, and then chose that for her topic to write a story about. However, the wordings on both things were things that I had said. Have had conferences with her mom, and we have tried different things. Her mom knows she lies. After this week, if she was my daughter she wouldn’t have gone to 2 special events at night that were not school related. Either she rushes so fast not to have homework, and fails it,or she does nothing and has a lot of it. Her grades are not what she is capable of for her.
She is so “people smart”and very spoiled. She knows how to “cozy up to people”-mostly adults, and very “street smart.” We have talked about good morals or values, but that is over her head.I have seen her try to buy kids snacks at ballgames, as trying to buy friends. She is very friendly, and will talk to anyone both young and old. She is very mature in social skills.I have a feeling she will do well in life, as she knows how to read people. She says what people want to hear. If she doesn't change, I shudder what she will be like in junior/high school. We have tried positive reinforcement, as well as other, as she has had to miss recesses to get work completed. I just feel that she will not do well next year in a bigger class size, although she has already informed me that she will do much better. I just want to help and prepare her. I have tried to be a good role model, as my kids know I tell the truth, but she already thinks I lie, and had to prove something to her to show her I don't lie. It is a constant battle. Transferring classes isn't an option.Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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read2me

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Have you talked to your principal or counselor? I had a similar situation, but she was poor and her mother was a bad lair as well. So we didn't have any family support. We put a camera in my room, to catch what she would. This film was only veiwed by my principal, counselor , and myself. We worked on a behavior improvement plan. She was in 1st grade at the time, now she is in 3rd grade doing fine. They still work with from time to time. I think she needed someone to love her.She had to work for extra fun things to do in my class, she had no punishment at home. If you have any other questions, just ask.
 

suem

Senior Member
It's time to turn the problem over

I agree with read2me. This child needs more than the teacher telling her what she obviously doesn't want to hear. If you have to TAT
 

suem

Senior Member
It's time to turn the problem over

I agree with read2me. This child needs more than the teacher telling her what she obviously doesn't want to hear. If you have to TAT to get her to couseling, start now. Don't wait. She needs some kind of help and couseling in NOT your job. We are teachers and we put up with a lot, but we are not qualified to figure what is going on in a "street smart" little girls mind. The camera would be a good idea too, if your school does things like that. Don't wait any longer, get her to a couselor, there may be a deep reason as to why she is so bad.
 

jo

Senior Member
RE: It's time to turn the problem over

Getting her to a counselor would be a great idea, and I am going to try it. Just last Friday, she threw a major temper tantrum (banging her head, crying, hollering-I need help, I ignored her through this, but calmly telling her, when she calms down, I would help her) Her and another student were getting questions answered by me at a table, and she wanted her answer right now. I told her what paragraph the answer was located, and she blew up. Thus the tantrum. However, after being told to go back to her desk, and doing so, she yelled very loudly-"You're going to get fired at the next school board meeting, my dad said so, and he also said, we need a new teacher." She even said that she heard her dad tell her grandma, "Why does she have homework,and we need a new teacher." About 15 minutes later, she wrote me a note and it said, "I am sorry for yelling at you. I got over it." Not caring how my feelings were hurt in the process. From now on, I will make sure I am never alone with her. I did tell her mother, but she said nothing, not even amazed at what she said, or denied if it was said. One little question, will you please spell out what TAT means? Thanks. I will try the counselor idea, and putting a camera up in the room. I hope we make progress. Thanks for all the help!!! I do appreciate it.
 
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